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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 17:05:17 GMT -8
So lets talk about the Grand Tournament. I want this to be a big event that everyone can take part in. If you have any suggests, questions or queries about the tournament (especially the rules and judging) please air your opinion here so we can nail down the details and get this part started. For those of you that are confused by this go take a quick look in the quest section.
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Ralf Valgard, the White Wolf
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Varan Adventurer
Roleplay posts: 299
Age: 25
Physical Description: An athletically-built man weighing 160 lbs and standing 6 feet high. He has fierce blue eyes set into a wolfish face. His dark brown hair is usually pulled back into a braid on the back of his head. Well-groomed facial hair, for which he is proud of, covers the bottom half of his face.
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Clothes and Equipment: Ralf's primary possessions include his Hirhanic Shield, Mariah's Dagger, his Ancestral Sword, and his Ki'Gar.
The Hirhanic Shield is able to absorb various forms of energy: physical, magical, or otherwise. He can release this energy in the form of shockwaves on command. This item was a gift from his friend Hirhan.
Mariah's Dagger was looted from Mariah's corpse in Aozora. The dagger is able to absorb magical energy from its victims.
Ralf's ancestral sword is of exquisite make; it is an ancient weapon forged in a forgotten age using a rare material. It has the potential to channel 'the Power of the Old Gods', but Ralf is oblivious to this and the weapon is never used.
Ralf's ki'gar, or 'kin garb', is blue with white borders. A white wolf's head is emblazoned in the center, with the family name "VALGARD" written across the bottom. He usually wears the garment as a scarf or cowl.
Currently Ralf carries a a two-handed battle-axe.
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Allegiances: His Family, Himself, His People - in that order
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Post by Ralf Valgard, the White Wolf on Aug 16, 2015 17:37:24 GMT -8
It should be no surprise that I want to submit a Varan warrior for this tournament. Unfortunately, the realm of Asgeir is not an established region/government, despite being established through Ralf Valgard's dialogue/history and Aia Heijra's recent actions in the Free City.
What do you say to that? Would a Varan warrior be allowed?
PS: I think this is a terrific idea, by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 1:51:18 GMT -8
Of course that would be allowed. As long as you would be willing to host the next Tournament is does not matter if the faction you represent is a government or not so long as it has the facilities to host the following tournament and is decently large IC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 4:50:12 GMT -8
What if most of my characters are magic based? What if my characters don't belong to a faction? What if I'm New to the site and I created a mage? I can't participate. What if just joined and haven't joined a faction? I can't participate. Major flaws there Medsy, mainly for newcomers. How long do you want to wait til the tournament starts?
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Weaver of Tales
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Post by Weaver of Tales on Aug 17, 2015 7:31:39 GMT -8
They're not major flaws. This is not an OOC tournament, it's an IC one. You obviously need an IC character who would ICly participate in such an event. Additionally, this IC tournament would obviously have IC rules, such as no magic. If you can't participate, you can't participate; it's not a major flaw, it's realism.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 8:36:09 GMT -8
I want this to be a big event that everyone can take part in. Obviously then he's lying about this statement in this case. "Combatants will be Judged on RP, Entertainment, Combat and Co-operations" < OOC judging Read more: thefantasysandbox.boards.net/thread/529/first-grand-tournament?page=1#ixzz3j5hqyXcxAlso the fact that someone HAS to join a faction to participate encourages people to join a faction for the random hell of it just so they can go, something I wouldn't want in any of my factions.
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Garo Zelsai
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Age: 16
Player's online availability : Random, and usually you can find me in the Free City.
Registered: Dec 27, 2014 22:10:44 GMT -8
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Post by Garo Zelsai on Aug 17, 2015 8:45:55 GMT -8
No magic is definitely not a flaw. If you think about it for even a moment, the sheer scale of problems that could accompany a competition of magical violence would spell (har har) disaster for spectators, unless the place was super warded (which I suppose is possible under Sandbox rules but still). I also think a character who's purpose is kinda to fight and adventure, but who relies solely on magic, would be somewhat under equipped for the Sandbox environment, anyways. Faction representation isn't a problem either--it's kind of one of the points of the tourny. Think medieval tournament, when kings sent their best knights to the joust.
How is this going to be judged? I think a small panel of judges (2-3 judges) will be necessary. Because "physics" are processed as somewhat "realistic" in the sandbox, judgement should be fairly straightforward and consistent with who's swing or block is most plausible.
First-blood victory conditions would do well in both exposing the best fighter in most scenarios, and keeping matches from getting too drawn out.
I'd allow warriors to come equipped with any weapon(s) they'd like. Perhaps put a restriction on armor to force skill-at-arms as the ultimate equalizer. Otherwise, we might have to think about weight/armor divisions, which would just send the whole concept downhill.
I think if it was set up exactly like this, it would achieve all the goals we'd want out of it (see which fighter is the best fighter, while keeping conditions fair, while also being interesting to watch!).
If it's set up like this, there's people I know who weren't too excited about the Sandbox when I told them, but I know would love to sign up if there's an actual awesome event they can partake in to help initiate them into our world (muahaha).
--Edit: specifically I do not so much like the OOC judgement portion on how well the RP is done. I think simply figuring who is the best fighter would be more constructive, since PvP in the sandbox isn't as collaborative as they might be in tabletop games, newer players could always refer to the tournament to learn the strategies and techniques of the best, which serves an OOC purpose even from IC judgement, and also helps newbies (who perhaps may not be used to "actual" PvP) learn how to write PvP scenes in which the opponent is actually trying to win.
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Jarkoopi, Kepesk Altiui
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The mountaintop guardian shadows his lands...
Roleplay posts: 380
Age: 1023 Years
Physical Description: Size (At standing pose): Height: 39 feet at the shoulder, Length: 104 feet
Eye color: Yellowish-White
Scale color: Light Blue, reflects a dull White in direct light
Dragon Species: European Dragon
Dragon Type: Chromatic
Dragon Color: Blue
http://i.imgur.com/Ba7kzgX.jpg
As a storm dragon, his hide and flesh can generate an electric charge passively when threatened, much like an eel, and can naturally and instantly release it upon being touched by a foreign organism or object.
As a human he takes the appearance of a man in the age range of forties to fifties, averagely built besides being a few inches taller than the average Joe and dressed in clean leather armor and worn blue cloths.
Clothes and Equipment: Two small leather pouches tucked under wings
He owns his father's ancestral unique magical scale mail. It is enchanted to break on impact and the shards return his body and reform into a different piece of armor until it is struck, then it repeats the steps.
A set of personal shoulder pads forged by Brock the forge master. It focuses the passive electricity in his hide into a beam of magic energy which blasts away targets.
Weaponry: Claws, Breath Attack (Lightning), and Bite
Treasure Hoarding: Minimal, mainly gems sometimes gold.
While as a human, he wields a magical long-sword, not much is known about his weapon, as he rarely uses it.
Allegiances: Isra (Loosely)
Player's online availability : US Central Time, Weekends: 8 AM to 11 PM, Weekdays: 6 AM to 9 PM
Registered: Mar 24, 2015 12:41:54 GMT -8
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Post by Jarkoopi, Kepesk Altiui on Aug 17, 2015 8:54:21 GMT -8
No magic is definitely not a flaw. If you think about it for even a moment, the sheer scale of problems that could accompany a competition of magical violence would spell disaster for spectators, unless the place was super warded. I also think a character who's purpose is kinda to fight and adventure, but who relies solely on magic, would be somewhat under equipped for the Sandbox environment, anyways. Faction representation isn't a problem either--it's kind of one of the points of the tourny. Think medieval tournament, when kings sent their best knights to the joust. I understand why magic wouldn't be allowed, simply for those cheatsy bastards. But there should be some other like tournaments for other types of characters, like mounted duels, magic duels, etc. I wasn't thinking as much knights going to joust but more self-proclaimed type gladiators, fighting for amusement/money rather than their lord, emperor, etc.
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Garo Zelsai
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Post by Garo Zelsai on Aug 17, 2015 9:33:40 GMT -8
Other tournaments would be pretty cool, they could come after this one or pop up in other places. The concept of tournament at all is really good for RP.
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Satrage
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Post by Satrage on Aug 17, 2015 9:39:12 GMT -8
is there money involved if you win? That's all I care about.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 11:45:36 GMT -8
Okay so what im thinking about doing is changing how the tournament is judged. I'm thinking that instead of numerical values the judges simply confer on who is the In character victor. Combat may be called to an end early if a clear victor emerges and will be called to an end after a maximum of 15 posts each. This way it will still to technical, in character martial skill. What do people think of this?
Participants will be able to fight with what ever close combat weapons they chose and a shield of any type should they chose to do so. Also all participants will wear some form of leather garb as, in a setting where you cannot be serious harmed, one has no need for armour as it would only slow them down and offer unneeded protection.
I feel that people belonging to a faction is a key theme of the tournament and it helps continue the event for the future as the winning faction get to host the next tournament with rules of their choosing and on their own turf.
Also i'd give it a week or two before I start to draw things together and begin the tournament. That should be plenty of time to advertise to perhaps outsource new players who are interested in such an event.
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Garo Zelsai
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Age: 16
Player's online availability : Random, and usually you can find me in the Free City.
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Post by Garo Zelsai on Aug 17, 2015 13:17:03 GMT -8
I think this revision works very well. One question though: how to prevent serious injury?
Combatants would either have to pull their fatal hits and judges would have to accurately see and call that (because if someone stabs the other in the heart, they should be counted as winning the match, but we don't want it to actually happen!) Or, combatants can be given enchanted weaponry that leaves a magical "mark" where the blade touches the opponent, but don't have sharp edges and perhaps further safety enchantments (force blunting of physically sharp tips of some melee weapons, etc).
Aside from that, this seems pretty solid. I do agree that a victor should be determined if the melee extends past a certain point. Though are we talking 15 rounds, or 15 posts (15 posts total would equate to 7 rounds considering each a round consists of a post from both fighters)? Both limits seem plausible to me either way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:34:25 GMT -8
When/If a combatant takes a fatal or seriously injuring hit, instead they will be teleported out of the arena into the back of the arena and will effectively lose the match. All damage will be negated leaving them unscathed but they will forfeit the match.
And it will be 15 rounds. so 15 posts each.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 15:18:57 GMT -8
Okay ladies i amended the rules in light of some of your feedback. Take a look and sign up! Only two participants so far, wont be much of a grand tournament if the first round is the final.
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The Phoenix State
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Post by The Phoenix State on Aug 20, 2015 10:30:13 GMT -8
If a non faction fighter wins, Estherol City will host the next tournament for them. So don't worry or hesitate to join, this issue is resolved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 10:35:43 GMT -8
This is incorrect, if a non faction fighter wins then the highest placing faction representing participant will win the right for their faction to host the next tournament.
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Jill
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Age: 17
Physical Description: Dark brown hair and pigtails, small and faded blue tribal tattoo on her right upper arm.
Clothes and Equipment: Tribal gear of a deep purple hue, with lightly guarded forearms. Her belt hoists a small brown pack, a curled up whip, and two thin, ornate scimitars.
Player's online availability : Some during week days, and most nights 8pm+. Pacific time.
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Post by Jill on Aug 25, 2015 23:33:36 GMT -8
So, are projectile weapons allowed or is this a melee tournament?
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